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JimPhelps
SS 1st assignment - desk job

USA
417 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2005 :  15:54:55  Show Profile
Iím sorry that Iíve been away so long but I am settled in California now. Itís a long move from Florida, so many details. Anyway, here in L.A. the local independent station, KDOC, runs Hawaii Five-O weekdays at three and they are at the beginning of their first season. Iím sure somebody else here has noticed but the first season of Hawaii Five - O has tons of fourth season WWW music. There have been times when I didnít realize it was on and Iíve been in the bedroom and heard music from TNOT Kraken and TNOT Big Blackmail and come into the living room only to see Jack Lord on the tv. As I said, Iím sure others have noticed.
Now that things have calmed down a little and I have a bit of a routine again. Iíll be happy to participate a little more.

Mr. Phelps

ccb
SS Quizmaster Emeritus

3799 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2005 :  19:38:19  Show Profile
West and Hawaii Five-O overlapped by one year, and the musical crossovers worked in both directions. For instance, cues that were composed for the Jack Lord series found their way into such West soundtracks as "The Night of the Winged Terror" (Part II) and "The Bleak Island." I suspect that was largely due to Mort Stevens's influence. By that time, he was head of CBS West Coast Music and helped the network's producers "spot" their scenes with cues banked in the network library. In those days, composers' work was not as scrupulously credited as today's union rules require. That's why you'll also hear, throughout West's run, music originally composed for Rawhide, Gunsmoke, Cimarron Strip, even The Twilight Zone and just about anything else that was running on CBS during that era.

Not always, but often, you can tell West episodes without original music when the credit card reads "Music Supervision, Morton Stevens" (beginning, in 1966, with "The Flaming Ghost"). Stevens, however, was no mere cobbler of other people's work. His most famous theme song was the one he wrote for Hawaii Five-0.

Welcome back, Mr. Phelps. Hope your settlement is smooth in sunny California.
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JimPhelps
SS 1st assignment - desk job

USA
417 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2005 :  15:50:56  Show Profile
The move was great, I love it here and thanks for the information. Iíve watched some Gunsmoke and Rawhide and of course Iíve seen the most famous episodes of The Twilight Zone (I think Iíve seen all of them at least once)a few times but I never caught the music. What caught my attention was the music used for the ďkrakenĒ in ďTNOT Kraken.Ē Itís very distinctive, and having grown up associating that music with the fantastic world of WWW it seems a bit incongruous in such a down to earth series like Hawaii Five-O. But if you were a regular viewer of the series the music would fit right in.

Mr. Phelps
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beerbad
SS novice field agent

684 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  09:16:15  Show Profile
ccb has us all listening to the music more and more. I've noticed the theme music from Lassie on Rawhide!
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JimPhelps
SS 1st assignment - desk job

USA
417 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  09:30:25  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by beerbad

ccb has us all listening to the music more and more. I've noticed the theme music from Lassie on Rawhide!


Neat! Something else to look for while Iím re-watching these shows.

Mr. Phelps
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ccb
SS Quizmaster Emeritus

3799 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2005 :  15:32:10  Show Profile
Mr. Phelps: What caught my attention was the music used for the ďkrakenĒ in ďTNOT Kraken.Ē Itís very distinctive, and having grown up associating that music with the fantastic world of WWW it seems a bit incongruous in such a down to earth series like Hawaii Five-O.

Again, I think, the incongruity operates in both directions. Offhand, my favorite example for this would be the cue for the fight in the cottage of Act IV of "Bleak Island": The percussion is Polynesian in style and was clearly composed for Five-O. So also, I think, is the eerie mysterioso we hear when first seeing the hand with the dagger that will threaten Alicia and Mark at the end of that episode's third act.
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beerbad
SS novice field agent

684 Posts

Posted - 07/30/2005 :  08:19:48  Show Profile
That sounds like an interesting one to look up.

Our girls have abandoned us, guys.
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Elaine
SS 1st assignment - desk job

356 Posts

Posted - 07/30/2005 :  10:43:06  Show Profile
quote:
Our girls have abandoned us, guys.


I guess I better check in. I haven't abandoned you guys. I'm so behind with my ep reviews that I'm embarrassed. Hopefully, things will settle down around here soon. I miss you!
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ccb
SS Quizmaster Emeritus

3799 Posts

Posted - 07/30/2005 :  11:28:15  Show Profile
Come back, Elaine (and others). We miss you.
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JimPhelps
SS 1st assignment - desk job

USA
417 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2005 :  08:39:25  Show Profile
The station has now moved to broadcasting the second season 1969-70 and I havenít caught any WWW music. Or is it Hawaii Five -O music that Iíve heard on WWW? Or both? Either way I have a new game to play when I sit down to watch some of these old CBS shows.
ďHawaii Five -OĒ kind of serves as a warm up to ďMission: ImpossibleĒ which is on every weekday at 4 p.m. unedited. I have only seen about 40 or so unedited episodes all of the others Iíve seen on the old f/x where it was horribly chopped up. Cutting 60 seconds from a Mission: Impossible episode can render it incomprehensible and I saw many that I believed were incomprehensible, until I watched the unedited version here in L.A. Itís almost like watching an entirely new show. Itís amazing how much can improve when your tv station respects the proper act breaks and doesnít just fade away into a commercial right in the middle of somebodyís dialogue. Then comes back from commercial already into the next scene. I have made sure to email the folks at KDOC, the independent station here, and express my gratitude at their care in broadcasting ďMission: Impossible
(If they can start showing WWW then weíll really be in business!)

Mr. Phelps
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Dieter Epping
SS senior field agent

USA
6499 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2005 :  00:42:28  Show Profile
KDOC aired Wild Wild West for 4 years but stopped it a while ago. They aired the show unedited as I recall. I had a friend tape them all for me back then but I haven't watched them for a while. I wish they could start it back up again also with all their other good action shows.
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ccb
SS Quizmaster Emeritus

3799 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2005 :  12:51:58  Show Profile
Speaking of rotten editing decisions on local stations: It used to infuriate me when locals would cut away for commerrcials without playing out the act-ending freeze-framesósurely one of the most distinctive and memorable features of West. The mercenary dunderheads at Channel 12 (or whatever) would butcher the episodes in that and other ways, all so that they could buy another 30 secondsĖfour minutes of advertising.

After its original network run, I distinctly recall that it was years before I could see and hear the freeze-frames for "The Night That Terror Stalked the Town." The Viacom syndication print, shown by my local station, had already cut them out!

Now that we are lucky enough to live in a DVD age, and I'm lucky enough to be able to afford them, it gives me such delight to see these shows in (relatively) pristine condition.
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